Alert!!! A Super Congress or Oligarchy to be installed in spite of the US Constitution

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/23/super-congress-debt-ceiling_n_907887.html?icid=main%7Cverizon%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C219902

"...Create a new Congress.

This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers.

Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.

Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable ...."

 

Source, The Huffington Post, {pulled up on and quoted on July 24, 2011}

 

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The US Constitution states in:

 

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/constitution/text.html

 

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress...."

In other words, a 51% majority passing the House and the Senate, and a signing into existence by an unConstitutional President implementing such a Communist-Socialist Oligarchy justifies what kind of a response? 

Be mentally and physically prepared for a Communist-Socialist anti-Republic Obama-issued Martial Law, and a dismissal of the Second Amendment with confiscations by Executive Order.  If you are not prepared, it is my opinion that you had better damn well hurry, if you have the finances to do so.  If you have any kind of political influence, you had better use it now, because the kind of above unaccountable Oligarchy proposals are to the United States what the Enabling Act did to Weimar Germany.  Turning it from a Republic to a Dictatorship within the same year. 

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{Update:  About 2 hrs after posting, via Trevor Loudon's site posting...http://trevorloudon.com/2011/07/super-congress-echoes-of-tyranny-rising/

I read an Excellent and more detailed "super-congress tyranny" post on this same issue originally found at

 http://noisyroom.net/blog/2011/07/24/super-congress-echoes-of-tyranny-rising/ 

This article is a recommended read.  }

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{Update 7:25pm Pacific

On July 20, 2011 Dick Morris reported that what we now know as the Super Congress Oligarchy, started out as a Senator Conrad of North Dakota “Politburo” Политбюро (i.e., comprise a US oligarchy made up of top members of the Communist Central Committee) suggestion...and appears to have morphed from there into a political monster:

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/senate-debt-deal-is-a-fraud/#more-3631

[Quote]

“…to establish a commission to monitor the deficit reduction measures to assure that they unfold as planned. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND), Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, has been pushing this idea for more than a year now hoping to equip the commission with automatic authority to cut spending and to raise taxes without legislative authorization.

It would allow a tax increase without requiring any member of Congress to vote for it.”

[Unquote]     ---  end of update}

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[Update 8:35 pm.   UK Daily Mail also reports on Super Congress oligarchy proposal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018237/Ive-left-altar-couple-times-Obamas-frustration-latest-debt-crisis-talks.html

{Quote}

A new 'Super Congress' or 'super-committee', comprised of members of both chambers and both parties, is part of a new plan proposed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

The proposal includes an unprecedented formation of a 12-member panel of lawmakers, in addition to legislation to lift the $14.3trillion debt ceiling.


Legislation approved by the proposed committee is intended to move quickly through both chambers and could not be amended by lawmakers by casting an up or down vote, reports the Huffington Post.


The panel would thus be 'less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits,' the report suggests.

Lawmakers are scrambling to assure investors before Asian markets open on Monday that America can avert a catastrophic default which would have devastating effects on the global economy.

...House Speaker John Boehner has made a Super Congress a central part of his last-minute proposal, multiple news reports and people familiar with his plan say.

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What is not reported that a default on the August 02, 2011 debt ceiling deadline merely causes a $29 billion dollar late fee, just like you and I get charged $29 to $39 by the bank (or what ever like fee) if we make a late payment.

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/07/23/mark-levin-29-billion-is-the-cost-of-not-defaulting-and-senate-never-voted-on-cutcap-and-balance/

See also the ff. link article reminder of how that from November 1995 to March 1996, the US Government already came through the very same debt ceiling pseudo-crisis Obama seeks to create hysteria over (a crisis he hopes to use to ram fundamental changes to the US Government's Structure without abiding by US Constitutional restraints ).

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/07/22/the-debt-ceiling-was-not-raised-for-five-months-from-1995-1996-with-little-interruptions/

So who is at fault, and where is the outrage of the leadership of all parties and their constituents around this Nation?  And what about those in the Intel Community and the US Military?  What ever happened to that oath of protecting and upholding the US Constitution against Domestic enemies as well as the foreign?  Just asking.

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The below video is appropriate in the sense of Congress itself is creating the notion that every individual is no longer a citizen of a Free Republic, but some sort of monster to be hospital contained, and seen as sick...even as monsters.  The video also shows the perspective that one can see and apply in 2011 where the citizens just want a way out of this Obamacare Death Healthcare Institutionalization coming to pass which threatens the very existence of the individual, not just their freedom and liberty. Try and watch the video from this new artistic expression, and it drives home a new and powerful message to consider.

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[Update July 25th

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/super-congress-debt_n_909018.html

The Huffington Post again reports:

{{Quote -- in yellow}}

    "A powerful coalition that includes Tea Party members of Congress rejected a debt ceiling offer from House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Monday, calling a proposed bipartisan, bicameral committee that would draft deficit-reduction legislation "troubling" -- not because it would afford too much power to too few people, but because they said it could lead to tax increases." 

{ ^^^ Insert your own profanity here. ^^^     Any Super Congress Committee is Unconstitutional and violates Article 1.8 and Article 5, etc.  It is an offense that deserves a severe rebuke firstly because it subsumes illegal and unConstitutional powers of Governance designed to remove 523 of the 535 members of Congress, and make the chosen 12 the Governing Legislative Politburo while the rest of Congress is shut down and outlawed, pending a transition to a Communist-Socialist Government Structure.  America has been undeniablly BETRAYED by these Scumbag Politicial Leaders of both major Parties.  -- Brianroy}

    Nevertheless, separate proposals put forward by Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday each included versions of a Super Congress -- referred to on the Hill as a Super Committee -- that would write laws that could not be amended by the regular Congress, only voted up or down. In Boehner's version, the debt ceiling would be raised a second time if Congress approved the cuts decided on by the Super Congress.

    ....Boehner described the new legislative body in a summary of his proposal released by his office Monday afternoon:

The framework creates a Joint Committee of Congress ...(e)ach Chamber would consider the proposal of the Joint Committee on an up-or-down basis without any amendments. If the proposal is enacted, then the President would be authorized to request a debt limit increase of $1.6 trillion.

The structure of Reid's proposed Super Congress is similar to Boehner's, though the legislation it would consider would not be tied to an increase in the debt ceiling. Reid and the White House insist that the debt limit must be increased enough now to extend past the 2012 election....

The Super Congress amounts to an institutionalization of the gang structure that exists informally in the Senate, where a small number of lawmakers write legislation behind closed doors and then announce it to the public. Legislation written by the Super Congress would be extremely difficult for individual members of Congress to stop.

{{Unquote -- in yellow}}

End of July 25th update]

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[Update July 26, House Speaker John Boehner  pitches Super Congress Committee as if a good idea to Rush Limbaugh and his millions of listeners.  Rush is then either oblivious or intentionally deceptive, it seems to me, in his comments of the consequences of the Unconstitutional New Legislatiture designed to replace the current Congress.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072611/content/01125106.guest.html

Says Boehner: 

[Quote]

"Secondly, though, it sets up a joint select committee of the members of Congress: Six members from the House -- three Democrats, three Republicans -- and six members of the Senate. And they're charged with finding an additional $1.8 trillion worth of deficit reduction over the balance of this year. And they all meet. Any proposal that gets seven votes out of that group would go into a package where there's an automatic up-or-down vote in the House and Senate.
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Well, some people are concerned that the joint committee, "My God, they might raise taxes." Well, I'm gonna tell you what: It's gonna be pretty hard for the joint committee to do that. I don't believe that the Republicans on this committee that get appointed are gonna vote to increase taxes -- and if they did, I don't believe the House of Representatives would approve the report of the joint committee. So I don't fear that problem -- and, frankly, I'm not afraid of the debate. If they want to have that debate, let's have it.

[Complete B.S.  He won't debate on the US Constitution or of his unpardonable compromises in the House or anywhere else. 

Nor will radio hosts hold him to that and discuss relevant legalities (e.g., US Constitutional Article  1.8, or Article 2.4, or Article 5, or the 10th and 11th and 14th Amendments or what have you in any serious at length challenging argument.]

...What I'm trying to do is set up a scenario with this bill that we're trying to move through the House to force the Congress to finally act.
...frankly this joint select committee was set up to facilitate a real vote to cut spending in the United States Senate. "

[Unquote]

[Then Rush, gives this totally irresponsible and Constitutionally ignorant response about it].

[Quote]

RUSH: Well, in a nutshell, Speaker Boehner seemed to be saying that ...we got another congressional commission, blue ribbon or whatever you want to call it, we've had one of those. It's called Simpson-Bowles, and everybody's ignored it, forgotten about it. [Unquote]

This intentional and willful blindness on the part of Boehner, Limbaugh, etc. I say, is absolutely INEXCUSABLE.

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End of July 26 Update ]]

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Final Update to this posting : August 19, 2011

The Oligarchy Committee is now known to be these:

Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA): 202-224-4254

Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ): 202-224-4521

Senator Rob Portman (R-OH): 202-224-3353

Senator Patty Murray (D-WA): 202-224-2621

Senator John Kerry (D-MA): 202-224-2742

Senator Max Baucus (D-MT): 202-224-2651

Representative Jeb Hensarling (R-TX): 202-225-3484

Representative Fred Upton (R-MI): 202-225-3761

Representative Dave Camp (R-MI): 202-225-3561

Representative Chris Van Hollen (D-MD): 202-225-5341

Representative Xavier Becerra (D-CA): 202-225-6235 

Representative Jim Clyburn (D-SC): 202-225-3315