The Rapture of the Church
The [Enochian] Rapture and ff. eschatology - Jack Van Impe
Jimmy Swaggart – The Rapture of the Church
What is the purpose of the Rapture (the removal of those who believe into Jesus Christ from the Earth by means of an instantaneous ressurection transformation followed by an ascension to Heaven)?
Where and when in location do those believers go?
Are there any particular signs or observations or even sciences in the sun and the stars that can point us to even the possibility that such is indeed a coming reality? In other words, is it really all that inconceivable based on what we know and don't know about the world and the Universe which surrounds us?
I not only believe in the "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture, as with brothers Jack Van Impe and Swaggart, but I believe and can show that there are two Raptures. There is indeed a pre-tribulation sudden and unseen Rapture, as they and other true born-again Christians believe; but there is also a seen Rapture whose approximate day and hour is by that time known only because of the first unseen unknowable Rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation period. Thus in regard to a knowable second rapture, which must occur at a specific length of time after the first appearance of the Two Great Witnesses of the Book of Revelation, it will be for this reason (that the Elijahn Rapture is knowable by simply reading Revelation and using a calendar) as to why there is war in Heaven when the saints of that evacuation are on their way to Heaven.
[The ff. yellow colored below from:]
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/10/deliverance-through-raptures-part-1.html
[T]he War of the Heavens (Revelation 12:7-9; Judges 5:19-22) is fought primarily upon the roadway in the heavens that leads to Heaven.
“Came Kings. They fought.
Then the Kings in Canaan fought in Taanach [in the Valley of Jezreel],
by the water of Megiddo.
The unjust gain of silver, they took not.
From the heavens, fought the stars: [the angelic hosts]
from their courses, they fought with Sisera.
The torrential river Kishon swept them away.
That ancient torrential river, the torrential river Kishon.
Then from the galloping galloping of His mighty stallions
did the horses beat the hooves.
‘Curse Meroz’, said the Angel of YHVeH, ‘Bitterly curse its inhabitants,
for they did not come to the Divine assistance and help of YHVeH,
to the help of YHVeH (as to be) among the warriors and mighty men.’”
(Judges 5:18-23 -- translation mine)
Truth stranger than Science Fiction?
It appears that the inter-dimensional “window on high” that opens up (Isaiah 24:18) will be directly above the southeast section of Megiddo, over part of the Valley of Jezreel. The inter-dimensional window will be a portal -- like the concept of an interdimensional "worm hole" -- that warps instantaneously, the distance between Heaven and Earth. The Scriptures describe the "in between" / "the inter-dimensional", as though a long winding path or road in the Greek of 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
The time equivalency in our comprehension is that is traversed in anywhere from seconds to 15 minutes to perhaps as much as over half and hour (cf. Revelation 4:1, 8:1). Therefore, we are dealing with three dimensions, as described in Judges 5:18-23.
1) The First dimension is of this present reality that we perceive as Earth and Space.
2) The Second Dimension is some kind of in-between reality unseen and unperceived to those of the First Dimension.
3) The Third Dimension is that of Heaven itself, hence, the title of the “Third Heaven” by Paul in 2 Corinthians 12:2.
Jesus tells us of the battle tactics of that time of the Elijahn Rapture on Day 1290-1291, and the evacuation protocol, saying,
“But in those days, after that Tribulation, [of 1290 days]
the sun shall be darkened, [Joel 2:31, cf. vv. 30,32]
and the moon shall not give her light.
And the stars of Heaven shall fall,
[refers to a literal disappearance of the astronomical stars, as well as the casting down of angelic beings from Heaven to earth. That is, from the third dimension, into the second, and then perhaps also into the first dimension as well. If this last part of my analysis is correct, those angels which follow Satan as of post-Day 1291 will be as having had their “wings clipped” and thereafter be visible to the naked human eye, those dwelling upon the Earth. The technology explosion would then become incomprehensibly fast, so that speculation now is futile.
If this scenario of the clipped fallen angels becoming manifest post-Day-1291 is the case, the “kings of the East” will be angels heading humans, to fight other angels heading humans at Megiddo and elsewhere: becoming the house divided that shall not stand (Matthew 12:25-26).]
and the powers that are in Heaven shall be shaken.
[refers to a literal rippling of cosmic elements, and a bringing of war or a
“shaking” to the presence of “the Powers”; i.e., war in Heaven against GOD
the Father and the Lamb. The reverberation likened to a rippling of walls and floors as if by strikes against the foundation and support columns of a building.]
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall He send His angels, [His Heavenly Troops and Messengers]
and shall gather His elect from the four winds,
from the uttermost part of the Earth to the uttermost part of Heaven.”
(Mark 13:24-27, KJV - Commentary mine)
In Gematria, the word “Sisera” סיסרא holds a value of 331. This word is numerically synonymous with Ephraim אפרים, which means “Doubly fruitful”; with Chasabyahu חשביהו, which means “YH has regarded”; and with Yishyahu ישיהו, which translates as “YH will either lend or borrow, with interest.”
In Gematriac synonym, those of Sisera are borrowed or delivered from Sheol שאל. This deliverance is by GOD’s perfect and atoning work of the Cross, and the power of His eternal life and Resurrection (I Peter 3:19-20, 4:6; Matthew 27:62-28:20, 27:52-53).
In effect, Sisera represents the angelic hosts and translated believers, in the “Song of Deborah” of Judges 5.
Further, the Song of Deborah informs us of the initial success of the powers of Darkness in this battle. In Gematria, Kishon קישין holds a value of 470. It is found to be as Kimriyr [Kaf-Mem-Rosh-Yod-Rosh], “an eclipse of blackness, twice intertwined and shriveled back”. They Yedithun ידיתון , “use the hand meant for laud and worship”, to Arar ערר “to demolish and make bare”, by Ashuq עשק “pressing upon, quarreling with, and overflowing violently upon” the Saints and Sons of Light.
They do so along the Telem תלם , “the bank, or ridge of (the Heavenly sky-way), forming an accumulation.” In other words, knowing the Day of the Elijahn Rapture, they lie in wait as a force that is Token תכן, “a fixed and measured out / balanced quantity” of Kenath כנת “Companions and colleagues” thought to get the job of ambushing done. Yet, for all the intensity and fierceness of the battle, it is seen by GOD as but a Shetseph שצף, as but “a small outburst of anger”. This, in spite of the fact, that it appears at the first that the victory is granted unto the powers of darkness, who seriously pounce the Elijahn Rapture translation of believers and their Heavenly Escort.
Now whether it will be participated in by hundreds of fighter or some kind of more technologically advanced warfare aircraft who enter into the temporarily opened up vector warp-stream or inter-dimensional passageway that leads from earth to Heaven, or the battle is fought solely by angelic hosts against angelic hosts and translated/transformed believers, we shall have to wait and see. Isaiah 24:18 speaks of "windows on high are opened", and I take from this that an interdimensional portal or window or worm-hole is meant.
In all likelihood, it will be a combination assault through this "window on high", as indicated by the curse against Meroz (which appears to be telling us) of man-machine-and spirit beings assaulting spirit beings accessing the portal over Megiddo. It is these that those of “Meroz”, the armies and air forces of the Jordanians and Saudis, to which the curse of GOD appears in Ezekiel 35:3-5. Further, we learn in Obadiah 11-14, that in the time Israel needed assistance most, during this battle and invasion of Heaven and the Land of Israel, those of Esau (the so called “Palestinians”), stood in the crossways and laid ambush and slaughtered their Jewish “cousins”. And even, after all this, it is not we -- the saints and angels -- who will be victorious to save (Luke 10:18-20), but YHVeH Himself must intervene to save us and those of Israel’s remnant upon the Earth at this time. For, according to the Scripture,
“YHVeH shall be seen over them,
and His arrow shall go forth as lightning:
and YHVeH GOD shall blow the trumpet,
and shall go with the whirlwinds of the south.
YHVeH of hosts shall defend them…."
(Zechariah 9:14-15a)
"...The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.
A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground." (Jeremiah 25:30-33)
The battle between Satan and his angels and Christ and his angels and those who are the redeemed believers, must not be taken lightly. It will not be a couple of blows, then a cry for help, and no more pain. Rather, this battle is so fierce, that we who will engage in the battle, must fight with all our existence, so that we love not even our second life unto death. That means a violence threatening those who are eternal with extinction is made by Satan and those who follow him. We are told that in order to overcome, and protect those at the seen or Elijahn Rapture, we must fight (John 18:26) after this manner:
“…they overcame by the blood of the Lamb,
and by the word of their testimony,
and they loved not their lives unto the death.”(Revelation 12:11) KJV
The key word in Revelation 12:11 is “lives”. Those engaged in the battle had already died once, they are covered in the blood of Jesus, so that it is said, “Where, O death, is thy sting?” (Isaiah 25:8, I Corinthians 15:55). They are given the power and equality to take on angelic beings of great power and stature. They are not discouraged in the battle, for the word of their testimony bears them witness that they are destined to overcome in and through Christ, even as they overcame the world through Christ in their first life here on earth. Therefore, the fanaticism and empowerment of those of us upon the LORD’s side will more than equally match those who fight against the LORD, and fight knowingly that it is their one and only perceived chance, to avoid their sure destruction and doom.
I believe I have thoroughly researched the Rapture staying to what the Scripture teaches over what is accepted Tradition, but there are still points of conjecture (such as the possible use of advanced space age military aircraft far more advanced than we are now aware of even potentially being used at a point and location where a prophesied time and place inter-dimensional location is made known to us by the scriptures themselves, as to allow for an inter-dimensional confrontation.... this is but an educated form of speculation on my part, and I am saying so in order that there be no confusion about that).
In the Last Days, Jesus himself teaches of three watches that govern his return, and hence the Bible then itself teaches us of three major Last Days "transformative" events in regard to those that are Christ's (or Saints), two of them involving the Raptures and the Last being the actual return of Christ to set foot on Earth. The "transformative" events are those in which there is a state of resurrection change, and is exclusive of persecutions and deaths. It is the conquering of death, and the deliverance and creation of new bodies out of the bare substances of the old, even if only scattered ashes, and it is done so instantly that it might be described as in nano-seconds. The Enochian Rapture, the Elijahn Rapture, and of his return at the end of the 7 year Tribulation period with his angels and the Saints (those being raptured then are merely teleported like Phillip was from the Ethiopian Eunuch he baptized in Acts 8:39-40).
Acts 8: 39-40
39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus. And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea.
In my 3 part Rapture Scriptures posts
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/10/deliverance-through-raptures-part-1.html
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/11/deliverance-through-raptures-part-2.html
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/11/deliverance-through-raptures-part-3.html
I excluded some 20 plus Rapture Scriptures that were not as easily discernable, except through lengthy word study explanation or in some cases a more extensive explanation of allegory that detracted from the theme a little more on a tangent than was practical. It was not the kind of allegorical that could be subject to the kind of “either pagan or Christian” interpretation, such I have touched upon elsewhere.
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/12/because-even-his-church-is-written-in.html
And as you may discover, that the knowledge of real asteroid dangers such as Apophis
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/11/could-apophis-asteroid-fulfill-bible.html
or one its size, may help us discern more about the dangers of events that will follow the seen Elijahn Rapture in the Great Tribulation Period.
There are those who claim and believe themselves to be Christian and disbelieve in the Rapture(s) to their own peril, because to disbelieve the WORD of GOD is to risk damnation. One objection may be that they cannot fathom the concept of Heaven because they cannot see Heaven through a telescope. But I tell them and you, where those who are Raptured are going, is back to the Beginning of Time, because it is to a Universe outside and beyond the constraints of time.
Jeremiah 17:12
“A glorious high throne from the Beginning* is the place of our sanctuary.”
Genesis 1:1
“In the Beginning** God created the heaven and the earth.”
*Rishon (the primary word used here) is something or someone that is FIRST in place, time, or rank. It is derived from the feminine noun of Rishah (found only in Ezekiel 36:11) which is used in the sense of a Beginning of Time, or a Time Beginning thus. Rishah in turn is derived from Rosh, he who is the head person or first in rank. In the application of Jeremiah 17:12, we see that the time is Genesis 1:1, because the source of the person first in rank is GOD Himself in the very next verse of Jeremiah 17:13 which reads: "O LORD, the Hope of all Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed; they that depart from ME shall be written in the Earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of Living Waters. "
**Reshith (the primary word used here in Bereshith) is a feminine noun that also finds its definition in being first in place, time, order or rank. Both these above verses, Jeremiah 17:12 and Genesis 1:1, deal with being in the presence of GOD at or before the Beginning of Time.
Therefore, as we see in these two above verses, the end destination of the Raptures is to a point and place above and outside of time, even to Genesis 1:1, where GOD creates the enclosed Universe in which we live, and sets it in motion. In Genesis 1:1, we might better understand the concept if we can simply know that GOD is able to encapsulate a universe as if it were a oval space between His hands, run all time from Beginning to End within that oval space, and know all things and all events, even His own participation into those events. And if this happens in a timeless state and a timeless dimension, if we are taken out of that oval and stand before GOD is such a dimension and in a new state of Creation, we effectually have traveled back to a point of Gensis 1:1 as it were. Or so it seems to me. Then again, this is a new concept and an isagogic (introductury) musing on my part. But let's follow with the concept a little further on.
TIME
What is time? Like a form of measurement or a ruler, "Time" (in and of itself) is a marking unit of measurement in distance and of action. In Time, both action of motion and its location at any given point, down to the tiniest micro-atomic particles, is recorded. Time is a means by which GOD reckonsand governs this enclosed Universe from the micro to the macro-cosmic. However, because GOD Himself is Timeless, therefore Time has no purpose other tha for mortality. And if GOD and Heaven are immortal, and there is no darkness in Heaven because GOD is Light, and there is NO darkness in Him, none (1 John 1:5)...and that GOD is SPIRIT (John 4:24), while we are mortally covered spirits ourselves...then it stands to reason that this Universe cannot be all that is in existence. In fact, even by our own theories of the "Big Bang" we require the operation of this Universe to be a smaller Universe within a greater Universe of light, where we generally can better perceive that GOD and Heaven are based. And in the various models of claims to how even our solar system or planet was formed (be it the Nebular Hypothesis of 1796, the Chamberlain-Moulton Tidal Theory, the Collision Theory, or the Proto-Plant Hypothesis) there is no room for the creation of souls and spirits, or the implanting of intelligence in animals or human beings. Just cellular development is magically wished to come into being on its own, as even so there is no explanation for the soul, or emotion, or any reason whatsoever. It is as if even the ignorant (i.e. agnostic) and anti-GOD (i.e., atheistic) Scientists of today imagined eternity would create a computer on its own if given a long enough period, but so foolishly forget that the computer though obviously designed, still has to have an artificial intelligence and programs installed for it to be effective (let alone the power for it to run on and operate).
Their answers to such challenges? Usually they are quite mute, or evasive, or they may even attack the questioner for simply bringing it up.
Time is a design for this enclosed Universe within the greater Universe of light. Again, from the perspective of GOD, Time and this entire universe marked by it, has already been lived out from the beginning to the end. That is why the Bible prophecies are so accurate, because GOD uses the Old and New Testament to tell us not only what was, but what is yet to come as we live it out. In one sense, it seems that we are merely along for the ride in the chronology, yet in spite of that, we still retain our free will. We are still able to make clear choices and decisions and discernments without being able to deter the final outcomes pre-recorded in the Scriptures. Our fates are not sealed until we die, therefore let us choose to believe into the Son of GOD, Jesus Christ / Yeshua the Messiah, and what he did upon the Cross in paying our debts, of dying for us, and for 3 days and 3 nights being in the Earth, and then rising from the dead, ascending to Heaven, and is coming back again, fully alive, fully GOD and fully man.
A few years ago, I made a notation in my Bible that reads:
“The Kingdom of GOD precedes the Institution of the Church, and will outlast it.”
What do I mean by this? Once you also understand where we are in relation to Time and Space with Heaven and Genesis 1:1, you will grasp the concept in its proper context.
It appears to me that "The Institution of the Church" was created for this Universe. Once it is made into the New Heavens and the New Earth (Isaiah 66:22, 2 Peter 3:13), it seems to me that the Church then completes its circle of time, and reverts back into an original state of being the Kingdom of GOD with new members (we humans) to replace and more than compensate the absence of prior members (any angels and cherubs who fall with the cherub called Lucifer / Satan / the Serpent / the Devil / of late renamed Allah the deity of Islam). There is no more gathering out of, but only an eternal inclusion for those elect who at that point -- by the grace of the Father and of our LORD Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit -- remain.
We in the Land of the Living are effectually living as spirits in mortal bodies, recognizing that mortal death is still yet a price we must all pay for being born. And quite often, we spend much of our lives pondering why we were ever born, and what are we doing here? Many foolishly look away from GOD for the answers, while the wise look to the Son of GOD, Jesus Christ, and His Book (the Holy Bible) and more often than not, seem to find their answers, or at least just enough to grant them great comfort and peace.
We find in the writings of Paul, that the literal Greek to English translation reads: "Every Scripture is GOD-breathed"....2 Timothy 3:16. This is on the same masculine par as that of GOD breathing into the nostrils of Adam in Genesis 2:7,so that he was imparted an eternal soul with the power of highest reason / logos from GOD, the person whom is revealed as YHVeH Messiah in Lamentations 4:20, whom we know to be the Logos, he who is from the Bosom of GOD the Father (John 1:1,18) , the exact image/reflection of the Father (2 Corinthians 4:4).
See also:
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2009/11/john-11-and-trinity-explained-short.html
http://brianroysinput.blogspot.com/2010/03/2-corinthians-44.html
Faith is an internal engine, and everyone of us has a G-D shaped spiritual dwelling place within us that needs G-D to come in and dwell (John 14:23,17), in order for us to be made complete, and to light the pilot of eternal life (that lays ever extinguished in those who reject Jesus Christ, the Creator who in His preincarnate state, breathed into the nostrils of Adam, and gave Adam his eternal soul) -- cf. Lamentations 4:20, Genesis 2:7, John 1:3-4.
What do we do in this world while we have time? Do we constructively bring order; find the treasures of the hidden things of G-D in his Creation and in the souls of those around us? Do we tell them of John 3:15-16, and lead them to that eternal living life that is to come to those who believe and trust into Jesus and what he did at the Cross and through his resurrection and ascension? How many non-lit pilot-lights of dead souls in humanity are lit into eternal life because of us, and the sharing of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? These pilots, when lit, become what is described in the literal Greek to English of 2 Peter 1:19 as "a lamp-light shining in a murky place." The flesh and the body inclined to sin after its animal nature, is THAT murky place. As believers, Paul also effectually instructs us in the Greek of the book of Romans that we are called to put the sin nature to sleep, and operate by a trusting faith into Christ.
This Universe enclosed?
I contend that the Bible clearly informs us that we live within a smaller darkened Universe within a greater Universe filled with Light.
When we read:
Psalms 104:2
"Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:"
Isaiah 40:22
"It is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
we are expected to reason with the evidence in Creation the deeper meaning. If we have a curtain, we have something that creates darkness, shields out light, and is itself a boundary. This is not only true of the Earth's atmosphere, but of the stars and constellations as well.
In Job 26:7, we see that the ancients knew and recognized the precariousness and unchaotic anti-gravity nature of the Earth in the vast universe of space. It reads: "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."
Science is at a loss to explain why we hang in space as a planet, or why we rotate in an even horizontal elliptical orbit around the sun. Why don't the planets maintain a distance and go over the 360 degrees of the sun at some point in time? We are always virtually equatorial, never orbiting where the sun in directly below us or over us and perhaps spin the earth in a north to south or south to north rotation. Nor can Science explain why with the shifting magnetic poles of the sun, where they polarity of the sun fully reverses every 11 years, and then over the next 11 years reverts back again, Science cannot explain why the Earth hangs on nothing and remains in its perfect elliptical orbit that it does. And if they cannot explain the easily observed, how can we say that there is no boundary of darkness and edge to space? As with only the advent of jets able to ascend to the 17 mile boundary of light, where the light upon the earth from the sun and the darkness of space separate, so that we realize now that the blue sky is simply a refraction illusion of the sun's rays upon dust particles; so too, man cannot be cognizant of any space boundary of the universe, armed with a primitive (though state of the art) Hubble telescope looking out into space.
We might do well to grasp the concept that in a darkened room with the wall painted black, if we were to glitter the walls with self illuminating crushed crystals that illuminated only themselves and not anything else, and we were not told how large the room was, nor had seen it in the day time…perhaps we would mistaken a 30 ft. by 30ft. by 30 ft. cube of a room by a ratio of greater than 3 to 1 ratio. So too, I think we almost without question to this day misapply distance and size based on the same kind of distance misjudging in Astronomy and its related Sciences. Astronomical Sciences generally do not focus intently on the depth of space south of the South Pole, but rather, we always seem to look northward and/or generally "up" or in "that Heavenly direction", as if instinctly looking for GOD but never knowing why.
And we have to wonder if by observable means, we can question if we even can see and measure the observable Universe (such as star and galaxy distances) correctly. Galaxies and Solar systems often take the mathematical shape of elongated discs. We see shapes in astronomy that appear much like our clouds on earth. Some like the stratus, some like the cirrocumuls, some like the cirrus, and even severalther forms. But look out to the horizon in the day time. Run your eye to the edge of where the skyline touches the horizon and for 10 or 15 degrees upward. If there are clouds there, and they are broken apart, and you can see their left to right of your view "lengths"... what are the width of the clouds that you see? What are their individual heights and depths? What is their actual distances away from you? By having been to our horizons, we can measure distances we cannot measure in space. But even the best trained eye will have to admit, at such a distance, with an unfamiliarity as to what the distance to the horizon rally is or how far even the length of the Horizon is in actual distances in our field of view, we cannot fathom the actual heights or depths until the clouds get closer to us, because we are more or less seing them two dimensionally. By having a surface of the Earth, we have an advantage of aiding measurement we cannot do in astronomy. Because if even our closest star, be it Proxima Centauri (M5e spectral) or Alpha Centauri (G2 spectral) is off, then what does that do to our calculations? How can we even prove by triangulating or sun and planets that these are really just or as far as 4.3 Light Years away? I say that we cannot. Not really. They are just educated guesses based on what we know, and then a whole system of Science is built on those "guesses". If those "guesses" are massively wrong, a whole systematic body of sciences built upon those guesses must collapse as well, leaving the nearer more verifiable sciences still standing, however.
Observations of the horizon and astonomy is built on a correlation of understanding not only Triangulation, but curves as well. Since we do not yet know enough about how light bends, how can we go into the topic of how Time must also likely be constrained to at certain points bend as well? We can only theorize about both, but suffice these to be put off for another day.
This Universe of darkness is subject to the dimensional laws of time and space, while the greater Universe beyond has no constraints of “Time” placed upon it. Even the best minds of the atheists can only call their theories as merely hypotheses, for example Stephen Hawking at: http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php/lectures/62
The theory of a big bang expansion is better found in the Jewish nuclear physicist Dr. Gerald Schroeder's hypothesis in which as the Universe expands from the Big Bang, so does time accelerate to be more ancient than it is or was.
Dr. Gerald Schroeder, Genesis & the Big Bang Theory
Jimmy Swaggart – I’ll Fly away
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