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Thursday, January 21, 2016

Revelation Chapters 13,14,15 in the AWPR and KJV Versions (Repost for Alex Jones @ Infowars and World-wide To Read And Study)

The following Alternate Word Pictures With Reiterations Translation is my personal work-product.  It is done to help those who want the rich fullness of the Koine Greek Text that the New Testament was in to transcend also into the English language for the English reader.  -  Brianroy 



King James Version in Aqua Blue

Alternate Word Pictures with reiterations in Yellow

Commentary in Green

Explanatory Definitions May Also Appear In Fuchsia 







Revelation 13

 1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.     (KJV)

          (1)    And I stood fast upon the sand      [upon the beach]
                   of the (enclosed) Sea.
                  [the Mediterranean Sea's Aegean Sea
                    @ the island of Patmos]
                  
                   And behold, look and see; I saw Therion
                   ascending / coming up out of the (enclosed) Sea
                   having - possessing 7 heads and 
                   10 [fully developed] horns,
                   and upon the [fully developed] horns of it
                   Names of Blasphemy

                   [Names of Libelous Evil - Names of 
                     Abusive Profanity toward GOD].  

                   (AWPR)



 2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.      (KJV)

          (2)   And the Therion which I saw - perceived - beheld
                  was the same as - like unto a Leopard / Panther,
                  and the feet / paws of it as (that of) a bear,
                  and the mouth - opening of it as (the) 
                  mouth - opening of a lion.

                  And the Dragon-Serpent of its own will 
                  gave - bestowed - entrusted
                  the forceful and miraculous power of it,
                  and the throne 
                  [the manifest dominion seat of power] of it,                 
                  and great authority - power - permission 
                  to do or not do  
                  [as it so desired].                          (AWPR)



 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.      (KJV)

          (3)    And behold, look and see; I saw one of the heads of it 
                   as having been slain 
                      [ bloodily and with great violence, 
                        so that the body is fully limp and pale, definitely lifeless,
                        and the blood is as if drained to the outside of it ]
                  into death, 
                  and the death wound / injury of it was ministered to 
                  and miraculously healed;
                  and the whole Earth was struck with 
                  astonishment and wonder 
                  behind and to the rear of the Therion.     
                 (AWPR) 



 4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?     (KJV)

          (4)    And they paid homage - fell down before -
                  respected and adored
                  the Dragon - Serpent who of his own will 
                  gave - bestowed upon - entrusted
                  authority - permission - power to do or not do 
                  [as it so desired]
                  to the Therion:
                  and they paid homage - fell down before - respected 
                  and adored
                  the Therion, speaking / saying,
                        'Who is like as / of the same kind as the Therion?
                         Who is able - capable to make war /  a battle of war  
                          [by means of the production of shaking 
                           and destroying, with the hand]-
                         with it?                                 (AWPR)



  5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.     (KJV)

          (5)   And was bestowed - given over to it
                  a mouth-opening speaking /saying 
                  great things and blasphemies
                           [vile slander and abusive profanity toward GOD];
                  and was given over - bestowed upon - entrusted to it
                  authority - permission - power to
                  act - make - form - produce - bring about
                  for 42 months     
                  [ 3 and  1/2 years].      
                  (AWPR)



 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.      (KJV)

          (6)   And it open-opened the mouth-opening of it
                  into blasphemy - profane cursing and denigration
                  up to and alongside / with GOD
                  to blaspheme - curse - denigrate the NAME of Him,
                  and the Tabernacle - Tent - Booth (- Dwelling Place) 
                  of Him,
                  and those in Heaven Tabernacling - Tenting (- Dwelling).    
                 (AWPR)


 7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.      (KJV)

          (7)   And was bestowed - given over to it
                  to make - form - cause - bring about - produce war
                  with - after - in the midst of
                  the holy - sacred - set apart ones / the Saints,
                  and to prevail - overcome - conquer - subdue - be
                  victorious over them:

                  and was bestowed - given over to it
                  authority - permission - - power to do or not do 
                 [as it so desired]
                  upon / over every tribe and tongue / language and 
                  nation.                 (AWPR) 



 8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.      (KJV)

          (8)   And will fall prostrate before - show respect and 
                  do obeisance - worship it
                  all those dwelling in permanent structures 
                  upon the Earth
                  (those) who (were) certainly NOT  
                  written - inscribed - engraved
                  in the Scroll - Volume - Book of Eternal Life of the Lamb
                  having been slain as a sacrifice from
                  (the) casting / throwing down of
                  the Foundation / the Founding of
                  mankind in the world.      (AWPR)
                  

 9If any man have an ear, let him hear.     (KJV)

           (9)   If anyone has-possesses an ear,  attentively let him hear.   
                   (AWPR)



 10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.      (KJV)

          (10)  If anyone has captivity
                  to lead and gather - assembling together,
                  into captivity he goes secretly - by stealth - out of sight.

                  If anyone by - before - in the presence of - or with
                  a sword - knife will slay - slaughter - kill - put to death,
                  must needs be - it is necessary - it is inevitable (that)
                  he  by - before - in the presence of - or with
                  a sword - knife  be slain - slaughtered - killed - put to death.

                  Here, in this, is the patience - the patient endurance to
                  bear up under suffering
                  and the faith - trust - (means of) fidelity to win over
                  of the holy - sacred - set apart (ones) / the Saints.  
                 (AWPR)
       


 11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.      (KJV)

          (11)  And behold, look and see;  I saw
                   another Therion of the same kind
                   ascending - rising - coming up out of the Earth,
                   and it had - held - possessed two horns,
                   one and the same as a lamb,
                   and spoke at random in what manner or way as
                   a Dragon - Serpent. 
                   (AWPR)



 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.       (KJV)

          (12)  And all the authority - permission - power to
                    do or not do   [as it so desires]
                   of the first - foremost - chief Therion
                   it does - makes - causes - forms - 
                   produces - brings about
                   in the face of - in the presence of - before it 
                   [the chief Therion].


                  And it makes - causes - brings about the Earth
                  and those dwelling in permanent dwellings,
                  in order that they should fall down - show respect and
                  obeisance - (and) worship
                  the first - foremost - chief  Therion
                  of which the death wound - injury of it
                  was ministered to and healed.     (AWPR)



 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,     (KJV)

          (13)  And it 
                   does - makes - causes - forms - produces - brings about
                   great notable miracles - miraculous signs of 
                   significance for the purpose thereof.

                   Even fire it makes - produces - causes - brings about
                   to descend - come down - go down out of heaven 
                   into the Earth,
                   in the eye of - in the face of - in the presence of - before 
                   the men.                       (AWPR) 




 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.      (KJV)

          (14)  And it seductively deceives - causes to 
                   wander and go astray - leads into error
                   those dwelling in permanent dwellings 
                   upon the Earth
                   through the notable miracles - miraculous 
                   signs of significance
                   for the purpose thereof
                   which  were bestowed upon - given over for it
                   to do - make - cause - perform - produce - bring about
                   in the face of - in the presence of - before   the Therion,
                   speaking / saying  to those dwelling in 
                   permanent dwellings upon the Earth
                   to make - produce - bring forth
                   [ as completed - finished]
                   an Image - a likeness / copy / representation drawn or 
                   impressed from the original
                   to the Therion
                   who has - possesses the stricken injury - wound by 
                    the strike / blow
                    of the knife - sword 
                    and lived         [actively thereafter].      (AWPR)       




 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.     (KJV)

          (15)   And was given over to - bestowed upon to it
                    to give over - bestow 
                    a spirit [ of life, breathing / drawing breath]  to 
                    the Image - the likeness / copy / representation 
                    drawn or impressed from the original
                    of the Therion
                    in order that the Image of the Therion might also 
                    speak at random,
                    and might make - produce - cause - bring about
                    as many as may not
                    fall down - show respect and obeisance - worship
                    up to and alongside the Image of the Therion,
                    in order that they may be slain - killed - put to death.     
                    (AWPR)



 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:       (KJV)

          (16)   And it brings about - causes - makes all, 
                    the small / little and the great / large,
                    and the materially rich - prosperous - 
                     (those) lacking nothing
                    and the begging poor - materially 
                    helpless - completely destitute, 
                    and the free - independent - 
                     unconstrained (ones) 
                    and the slaves - servants:
                    in order that it may 
                    give to - bestow - put upon them
                    a Stamp - cut Engraving - Mark
                    upon the right hand 
                    [inclusive of the wrist area] 
                     of them
                    or upon the Forehead of them /  or 
                    upon the  midst of the eye of them:
                   (AWPR)


                                      
 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.      (KJV)

          (17)   also, in order that (they) may not have the power or be able 
                    to buy or  trade - barter -sell
                    except he may be having - possessing the Mark, 
                    or the Name of the Therion,
                    or the number of the Name of it.    
                    (AWPR)




 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.      (KJV)

          (18)  Here is Wisdom - deep knowledge and insight:
                  The (one) having - possessing 
                  the mind to perceive - recognize -
                  intelligently understand.

                 Let him count - reckon - calculate 
                 the number of
                 the Therion,
                 for - because it is the number of a man,
                 and the number of it (is) 666.  
                 (AWPR)
                 



Commentary and Addendum :

----I have formalized the word Therion as the designation of the creature the King James translates as the "Beast", because I believe it to be a more proper designation.  In effect, this Therion isn't simply a "wild animal" or "beast" in the usual sense; it is as if a specific "monster creature."  Therefore, in order to be true to the Text, you will see me translate as stated.   
    
Also I have added below text from the Ante-Nicene Patristic Work of Irenaeus, student of Polycarp - the bishop of Smyrna who was student to John the Apostle who wrote the Revelation September of 53 A.D.  -- and yes I have done the necessary research to date Revelation as 53 A.D., e.g. 


Polycarp, who in or about 108 - 114 A.D. became Irenaeus's teacher, in or about February 70 A.D. Polycarp became John's appointed Bishop in Smyrna, months prior to the fall of Jerusalem.  Polycarp was accountable and answerable to his teacher, mentor, and spiritual counselor John the Apostle for over 26 years more until John's death during the Roman reign of Nerva.
Thanks .  -- Brianroy


Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 5
Chapter XXX.—Although certain as to the number of the name of Antichrist, yet we should come to no rash conclusions as to the name itself, because this number is capable of being fitted to many names. Reasons for this point being reserved by the Holy Spirit. Antichrist’s reign and death.
1. Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies 

   ν πσι τος σπουδαοις κα ρχαοις ντιγρφοις 

and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the Beast [the Therion] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to 600 and 60 and 6; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end)


2. These men, therefore, ought to learn [what really is the state of the case], and go back to the true number of the name, that they be not reckoned among false prophets. But, knowing the sure number declared by Scripture, that is, six hundred sixty and six, let them await, in the first place, the division of the kingdom into ten; then, in the next place, when these kings are reigning, and beginning to set their affairs in order, and advance their kingdom, [let them learn] to acknowledge that he who shall come claiming the kingdom for himself, and shall terrify those men of whom we have been speaking, having a name containing the aforesaid number, is truly the abomination of desolation. This, too, the apostle affirms: “When they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction shall come upon them.”   1 Thess. v. 3
      
       And Jeremiah does not merely point out his sudden coming, but he even indicates the tribe from which he shall come, where he says, “We shall hear the voice of his swift horses from Dan; the whole earth shall be moved by the voice of the neighing of his galloping horses: he shall also come and devour the earth, and the fulness thereof, the city also, and they that dwell therein.”  [ Jer. viii. 16. ]This, too, is the reason that this tribe is not reckoned in the Apocalypse along with those which are saved. [  Rev. vii. 5–7  cf. Judg. xviii. ]

3. It is therefore more certain, and less hazardous, to await the fulfilment of the prophecy, than to be making surmises, and casting about for any names that may present themselves, inasmuch as many names can be found possessing the number mentioned; and the same question will, after all, remain unsolved. For if there are many names found possessing this number, it will be asked which among them shall the coming man bear. It is not through a want of names containing the number of that name that I say this, but on account of the fear of God, and zeal for the truth: for the name Evanthas (ΕΥΑΝΘΑΣ) contains the required number, but I make no allegation regarding it. Then also Lateinos (ΛΑΤΕΙΝΟΣ) has the number six hundred and sixty-six; and it is a very probable [solution], this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]. For the Latins are they who at present bear rule.   I will not, however, make any boast over this. Teitan too, (ΤΕΙΤΑΝ, the first syllable being written with the two Greek vowels ε and ι, among all the names which are found among us, is rather worthy of credit. For it has in itself the predicted number, and is composed of six letters, each syllable containing three letters; and [the word itself] is ancient, and removed from ordinary use; for among our kings we find none bearing this name Titan, nor have any of the idols which are worshipped in public among the Greeks and barbarians this appellation. Among many persons, too, this name is accounted divine, so that even the sun is termed “Titan” by those who do now possess [the rule]. This word, too, contains a certain outward appearance of vengeance, and of one inflicting merited punishment because he (Antichrist) pretends that he vindicates the oppressed. And besides this, it is an ancient name, one worthy of credit, of royal dignity, and still further, a name belonging to a tyrant. Inasmuch, then, as this name “Titan” has so much to recommend it, there is a strong degree of probability, that from among the many [names suggested], we infer, that perchance he who is to come shall be called “Titan.” We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision.
...
Chapter XXIX.—All things have been created for the service of man. The deceits, wickedness, and apostate power of Antichrist. This was prefigured at the deluge, as afterwards by the persecution of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

2. And there is therefore in this beast, when he comes, a recapitulation made of all sorts of iniquity and of every deceit, in order that all apostate power, flowing into and being shut up in him, may be sent into the furnace of fire. Fittingly, therefore, shall his name possess the number six hundred and sixty-six, since he sums up in his own person all the commixture of wickedness which took place previous to the deluge, due to the apostasy of the angels. For Noah was six hundred years old when the deluge came upon the earth, sweeping away the rebellious world, for the sake of that most infamous generation which lived in the times of Noah. And [Antichrist] also sums up every error of devised idols since the flood, together with the slaying of the prophets and the cutting off of the just. For that image which was set up by Nebuchadnezzar had indeed a height of sixty cubits, while the breadth was six cubits; on account of which Ananias, Azarias, and Misaël, when they did not worship it, were cast into a furnace of fire, pointing out prophetically, by what happened to them, the wrath against the righteous which shall arise towards the [time of the] end. For that image, taken as a whole, was a prefiguring of this man’s coming, decreeing that he should undoubtedly himself alone be worshipped by all men. Thus, then, the six hundred years of Noah, in whose time the deluge occurred because of the apostasy, and the number of the cubits of the image for which these just men were sent into the fiery furnace, do indicate the number of the name of that man in whom is concentrated the whole apostasy of six thousand years, and unrighteousness, and wickedness, and false prophecy, and deception; for which things’ sake a cataclysm of fire shall also come [upon the earth].







Revelation 14

 1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.      (KJV)

          (1)   And behold, look and see:   
                  I saw a Lamb standing fast upon the Mount, Zion;
                  and with / in the midst of  (in the presence of)  Him,
                 144,000  having - possessing
                 the Name of the father of Him
                 having been engraved / inscribed / written 
                  upon the foreheads of them.
                 (AWPR)




 2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:     (KJV)

          (2)   And I heard attentively a noise out of Heaven,
                  as a sound of many waters flowing / moving,
                  and a noise of great [clapping] thunder,
                  and I attentively heard a sound of harpers harping
                  on the harps of them:       (AWPR)




 3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.       (KJV)


          (3)   And they sing (in praise and honor)
                  as (it were) a New Song / a Newly Made Song 
                  in the face of - in the presence of - before the Throne,
                  and in the face of - in the presence of - before
                  the 4 Living Animalistic Creatures and 
                   the Presbyters / Elders;
                  and certainly no one had the power - was able to learn the Song
                  [by instruction] except the 144,000,
                  those being bought with a price - redeemed
                  from the Earth.   
                  (AWPR)




 4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.       (KJV)

          (4)    These are (they) who with - in the midst of
                   women were certainly not soiled / defiled,
                   for they are virgins.
                   These are those following (and attending together
                   in the Way of) the Lamb,
                   wheresoever He may go away and depart to
                   [in stealth and out of sight].
                   These were bought / redeemed with a price from men,
                    First-Fruit unto GOD and to the Lamb.     (AWPR)




 5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.    (KJV)

          (5)    And in the mouth - opening of them
                   certainly not 
                   was perceived - learned - discovered - found
                   baiting fraud - guile - deceit:
                   because - for they are 
                   without spot - blemish - blame - fault - disgrace
                   in the eye of - in the presence of - before 
                   the Throne of GOD.             (AWPR)



 6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,      (KJV)

          (6)   And behold, look and see: I saw
                  another angel of the same kind,
                  flying in the midst of the heavens
                  having - holding - possessing an 
                  eternal - perpetual - everlasting
                  Proclamation - Gospel - Good News
                  to preach - proclaim - evangelize
                  to those dwelling in permanent dwellings 
                  upon the Earth,

                  even every nation /  race- ethnicity 
                  [those of the same race],

                  and tribe
                  [those descended from the same tribal ancestor],

                  and tongue / language,
                  and people   [those joined together as a nation],
                  (AWPR)



 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.       (KJV)

          (7)   saying in a great voice,
                      'Be fearful and terrified - Fear
                      [and run away in fright from] GOD,
                       and give up - give over - bestow - render 
                      and present to Him
                       thoughtful recognition and honor duly rendered
                       because the hour of His
                       Krisis / time to lawfully Judge and render Verdict

                      [usually of rendering  a judicial sentence of
                        punishment including that of death]

                      came forth and has publicly appeared
                      the  Day - hour - short period of Time - season
                      of the Krisis / time to lawfully judge and render verdict
                       [a verdict of sentencing and punishment 
                         up to and including death that is so rendered by Him]
                      of Him,
                      and fall down - show respect and 
                     obeisance - worship Him
                      (who) having made - formed - caused - brought 
                      about -produced 
                      the Heavens and the Earth and the (enclosed) Sea
                      and Fountains - Wells  [issue sources of fresh waters]
                      of Fresh Waters
                      [of rain in the heavens and of of all sources of fresh 
                      water -- especially lakes and fresh 
                      water streams --flowing  upon the Earth].        
                     (AWPR)
                        


 8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.     (KJV)

          (8)   And another Angel of the same kind
                  followed (and attended together in the Way of) them,
                  speaking / saying,
                 'Descended and came down / Fell down,
                 Descended and came down / Fell down Babylon 
                  the City,   the Great,
                  because out of - from the (intoxicating) wine of the
                  outburst of anger - wrath - indignation - fury and 
                  violence of the mind
                  of the fornications / sexual sins of her
                  (that she) gave and made to drink
                   all nations / all races - ethnicities  
                   [peoples of the same races].'       (AWPR)




 9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,       (KJV)

          (9)   And a Third Angel followed 
                  (and attended together in the Way of) them,
                  speaking / saying in a great / large
                  [intensely loud or penetrating] voice,
                       'If / Whether anyone 
                        falls down - shows respect and 
                        obeisance to - worships
                        the Therion and the
                        Image - the Earthly likeness / copy drawn or 
                        impressed from the original of it,
                        and actively receives / takes / obtains 
                        a stamp sculpturing - a cut engraving - a mark
                        upon the forehead of him 
                        or upon the hand 
                        [including the wrist area] of him,
                        (AWPR)



 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:      (KJV)

          (10)  And / Also / Even  he shall drink out of - from
                   the (intoxicating) wine of the 
                   outburst of anger - wrath - indignation - fury and 
                   violence of the mind
                   of GOD,  
                   having been mixed and prepared 
                  (for pouring and drinking)
                   without mixture / without being diluted
                   in the cup / drinking vessel of the 
                   wrath / grievous anger [as if provoked] of Him, 
                   and will be tortured - tormented - afflicted 
                   by fire and brimstone / sulfurous flames
                   in the face of - in the presence of - before 
                   the holy - sacred - set apart angels
                   and in the face of - in the presence of - before the Lamb.'
                   (AWPR)



 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.       (KJV)

          (11)  And the smoke of
                   the torture - torment - affliction of them 
                   goes up / ascends into Ages of (the) Ages / Forever;
                   and certainly not
                   have- - hold - possess and keep  - have in any 
                   condition or circumstance
                   inner tranquility / rest
                   [freedom from:  travail- toil - lamentation - misery - corruption - 
                     fatigue - grief - anger]
                    Day and Night
                    those falling down - respecting and 
                    adoring - kissingly praising - worshiping
                    the Therion and the Image of it;
                    also / even if anyone actively receives / takes / obtains
                    the Stamp sculpturing -cut Engraving - Mark  
                    of the Name of it.    (AWPR)


 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.     (KJV)

          (12)  Here, in this, is the patient endurance
                    to bear up under and persevere - the patience  
                    of the  Saints / the holy - sacred - set apart (ones).
                   Here, in this, those keeping a watchful eye and observing 
                   the Commandments (and precepts) of GOD
                   and the believing - trusting - convicting winning
                   Faith of Jesus.
                   (AWPR)


 13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.       (KJV)

           (13)  And I heard attentively a sound / voice out of Heaven 
                    saying / speaking to me, 
                         'Inscribe / Write:
                               Blessed -  Having Fulness and 
                               not being in need - Fully Satisfied

                               [being Divinely satisfied apart from circumstances]

                               (are) the dead corpses / the dead (ones)
                                those dying off 
                                (naturally or dying from natural causes)
                                in the LORD from now (on) / from this 
                                moment (onwards).'

                          'Yes / Certainly.'   says the Spirit

                          'In order that they shall cease and rest
                           in peace and quiet 
                           out / from the 
                               [grievously wearisome efforts of exertion -
                                 the lamentable toils - the troublesome labors 
                                 which cause one  to beat the breast / chest in 
                                 lamenting grief with wailing -  the] 
                            labors of them;

                           then the works - employments - job performances 
                           of them  follow 
                           (and attend together in the Way) with / amongst them.'
                           (AWPR)



 14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.      (KJV)

           (14)  And behold, look and see: I saw a small luminous white
                    brightly shining cloud,
                    and upon the small luminous cloud (one) sitting down
                    just like in appearance to (the) Son of Man,
                    having - holding - possessing upon the head of him
                    a victory crown made of gold,
                    and in the hand of him a sharp/keen edged
                    reaping hook / sickle.      (AWPR)



 15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.       (KJV)

           (15)  And another Angel of the same kind
                    came / proceeded forth / went
                    out of the Area of Dwelling - Sanctuary - Temple,
                    loudly and urgently crying out hoarsely 
                    in a great / large voice
                    to the (one) sitting down upon the small luminous cloud:
                          'Send - cause the reaping hook / sickle of you to go
                           and cut down and harvest / reap,
                           because the hour - day - time came forth
                           to make its public appearance
                           for you to cut down and harvest / reap!';
                           because was dried up and withering / ripe 
                           the Harvest 
                           [that which is to be reaped] 
                           of the Earth.      (AWPR)


 16And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.      (KJV)

          (16)  And the (one) sitting down upon the small luminous cloud
                   cast forward / thrust the reaping hook / sickle of him 
                   upon the Earth,
                   and the Earth was reaped / harvested.   
                  (AWPR)



 17And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.      (KJV)

           (17)  And another Angel of the same kind 
                    came / proceeded forth / went
                    out of the Area of Dwelling - Sanctuary - Temple  
                    in Heaven,
                    he also having - holding fast onto - possessing 
                    a sharp / keen edged reaping hook / sickle.    
                   (AWPR)


 18And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.        (KJV)

          (18)  And another Angel of the same kind 
                   came / proceeded forth / went
                   out of the Sacrificial Altar, 
                   having - holding - possessing
                  permission - authority - ability - the removal of hindrance
                  upon / over the fire,
                  and he called ou

                   [as if he were calling from / over a great distance]

                  with a great / large wailing outcry
                  to the (one) having - holding - possessing
                  (the) sharp / keen edged reaping hook / sickle,
                  saying / speaking,
                        'Send - cause the sharp / keen edged 
                         reaping hook / sickle of you to go
                         and gather  - harvest in
                         the clusters - bunches of the Vine of the Earth,
                         because are ripened to its prime 
                         the grape-clusters of it.'
                         (AWPR)


 19And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.       (KJV)

          (19)  And the Angel cast forward / thrust 
                  the reaping hook / sickle of him
                   into the Earth,
                   and cast forward / threw into 
                   the wine trough - vat - press
                   of the outburst of anger - wrath - indignation - fury and 
                   violence of the mind of the Great GOD.    
                   (AWPR)



 20And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.        (KJV)

         (20)  And was trampled / trodden down 
                   [the path of]
                  the wine trough - vat - press   out / outside / without 
                  the City,
                  and came / proceeded forth / went  blood out of 
                  the wine trough - vat - press  
                  continually - so long as - until   
                  [it was as high as]
                  the  Bridles of the Horses
                  going forth - from - proceeding 1,600 Stadia. 
                  (AWPR) 


  Disclaimer:  The Alternate Word Pictures with Reiterations (AWPR) translation should be used as a Bible Study Aid only, and it is recommended that a direct literal translation or the King James Bible be used for regular and ecclesiastical purposes, and that the AWPR be used in association only as a Bible study aid so as to help the reader / user in their Bible Studying to clarify context and Scriptural Intent.     Thanks.  -- Brianroy



My Comments:  

1600 Stadia could be as few as 183.9 Roman miles or as many as 212.1  miles by the measure used by Josephus.

The Bridles of the Horses also employs a "loosening" word picture which may or may not also mean at the joint where the Horse's Bridle loosens.  


Of the Wine Trough - Press - Vat, also compare Isaiah 63:

Isaiah 63   (KJV)
 1Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
 2Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
 3I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
 4For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
 5And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
 6And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.








Revelation 15

 1And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.     (KJV)
          (1)   And behold, look and see: 
                  I saw another miraculous sign of the same kind
                  in  the great and marvelous Heaven,*                     

                  and 7 Angels,
                  having - holding - possessing the last / final 
                  7 strokes - blows - Plagues / Calamities,
                  because in them was brought or carried through to an end
                  accomplishment / destination / goal / completion
                  (of) the outburst of anger - wrath - indignation - fury and
                  violence of the mind of GOD.     (AWPR)



 2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.      (KJV)

         (2)   And behold, look and see: I saw
                 as an enclosed Sea
                 transparent like water or glass,
                 having been mixed / mingled / diluted with fire,
                 and those 
                overcoming - prevailing over - conquering - subduing 
            
                 -- out of / from the Therion,
                 and out of / from the Image of it,
                 and out of / from the Mark of it,
                 out of / from the number of the Name of it --

                 standing fast upon the transparent enclosed Sea,
                 having - holding - possessing harps of GOD.   
                 (AWPR)




 3And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.     (KJV)

          (3)  And they praisingly sing  in honor  the Song of Moses,
                 the bond-slave / servant of GOD,
                 and the Song of the Lamb;
                 laying down forth the definite words / saying,
                       'Great and awesome - wonderful - marvelous
                        [are] the works -deeds -performances of You,
                        LORD GOD ALMIGHTY;
                        Righteous - Straight and Just
                        and True - real and cannot lie
                        (and cannot in any way be false)
                        [are] the ways of You,
                        the King of the set apart - holy (ones) /  Saints.
                        (AWPR)
                       



 4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.     (KJV)

          (4)   Who in certainly no way fear or are in any way frightened
                   [so as to run away from]
                   You, LORD;
                    and (who) give up - give over - bestow - render and
                    present thoughtful recognition and praise duly rendered

                    to the Name of You,
                    because only / alone  (You) 
                    are holy - pure - righteous - sacred,
                    because all ethnicities - nations - races will come here
                    and fall down - worship - show respect and 
                    adoration - kissingly praise
                    in the eye of - in the presence of - before You,
                    because the justification / righteous acquittal by ordinance
                    of You (are) made manifest / made known / shown 
                    openly and publicly.
                    (AWPR)


 5And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:     (KJV)

          (5)   And after - amongst - in the midst of these things,
                  behold, look and see, I saw and lo - behold, 
                  was open-opened the 
                  Temple - Sanctuary - Dwelling Place
                  of the Tent - Tabernacle of 
                 Testimony - Declaratory Witness - Proof
                  in Heaven:     (AWPR)




 6And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.     (KJV)

        (6)  And came out - went forth the 7 angels 
               having - holding fast onto - possessing the 7 
               Strokes - Blows - Plagues / Calamities out of the Temple
               having clothed / having put on  
               naturally and spiritually clean and pure 
               bright shining - radiant white linen,
               and having been wrapped around and 
               girded about / clothe about
               the breasts (with) girdles / belts of gold.       
              (AWPR) 




 7And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.      (KJV)

          (7)   And one of the 4 Living Animalistic Creatures 
                  gave - bestowed
                  to the 7 Angels
                  7 wide-mouthed pans / basins / bowls / vials
                  of gold stuffed full [to overflowing] of the outburst of 
                  anger - wrath - indignation - fury and violence of the mind
                  of the Living GOD
                  into the Ages of the Ages / into Forever.    
                 (AWPR)





 8And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.      (KJV)


          (8)  And was filled - stuffed  [to overflowing] 
                 the Temple - Sanctuary - Dwelling Place of smoke
                 out from the Glory - the thoughtful recognition and
                 praise duly rendered
                 of GOD,
                 and out from the power - authority - might of Him.

                 And certainly no one had the ability or power to
                 come -go - enter
                 into the Temple continually,
                 until should be completed - accomplished - finished - 
                 made an end to
                 the 7 strokes - blows - plagues / Calamities 
                 of the 7 Angels.    
                 (AWPR)









Disclaimer:  The Alternate Word Pictures with Reiterations (AWPR) translation should be used as a Bible Study Aid only, and it is recommended that a direct literal translation or the King James Bible be used for regular and ecclesiastical purposes, and that the AWPR be used in association only as a Bible study aid so as to help the reader / user in their Bible Studying to clarify context and Scriptural Intent.     Thanks.  -- Brianroy




Comments: Revelation 15

*Verse 1:  The Greek literally says in the 1550 Stephanus New Testament, 1881 Westcott-Hort New Testament, and the 1894 Scrivener New Testament



There are given us only two choices of translation, neither are traditionally used, and this is ridiculous for it to be so.  Either we take the literal immediate meaning of  mega to apply to the noun immediately preceding it, which is the majority usage by John in Revelation and in the Gospel of John...or, we apply it  to the noun immediately succeeding it, as in two examples where mega preceded the noun it emphasizes (John 7:37, 19:31) in referring to the Great Day of the Feast and the Great Sabbath.  

Now since we have already seen the glassy sea beforehand, what is particularly great and marvelous as a "sign" in the chapter as so many translate?   We must rather choose that megas either is calling Heaven itself as great and awesome / marvelous, or that in the particular instance of this verse and series of verses,  the Angels themselves are set apart from all other angels as a wondrous sight and themselves very huge.   The Fact that the people in Heaven sing a song of Moses and of the Lamb, when it is a literal observable happening is not an especially awesome or great sign.  Nor is the fact that the 7 Angels themselves hold a literal 7 plagues so much  "a wondrous and great sign", as it is to be taken as a literal observance.

And in each other instance that "sign" /  σημειον  / semeion  is used in Revelation (12:1,3; 13:13,14; 16:14; 19:20)  it is seen out of context to ascribe great or μεγα  to the sign itself, but rather it begins a theme or line of thought being conveyed regarding  either Heaven itself, or it must alternately be ascribed to  (the) αγγελους επτα  / (the) Angels 7.

ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 12
 1και σημειον μεγα ωφθη εν τω ουρανω....
  3και ωφθη αλλο σημειον εν τω ουρανω και ιδου δρακων μεγας πυρρος....


ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 13
 13και ποιει σημεια μεγαλα ....
  14και πλανα τους κατοικουντας επι της γης δια τα σημεια....


ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 16
  14εισιν γαρ πνευματα δαιμονων ποιουντα σημεια εκπορευεσθαι....


ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 19
  20και επιασθη το θηριον και μετα τουτου ο ψευδοπροφητης ο ποιησας τα σημεια ενωπιον αυτου


Therefore, my translation here follows what I believe the original meaning of the text to be, not tradition in the translation of the same words based on a past tradition in how the verse was accepted, even when there is a very clear and more apparent option that mega is attached either to τω ουρανω / the Heaven or to the 7 angels long before they are attached to the semeion / sign.

And IF, and I say IF the great and wondrous adjectives belong to the "Angels" of the verse, we are talking about beings that must rival the sizes of the largest known people humanity has ever known.

In the Bible, the largest human ever known to be in existence was Og of Bashan, whose bed was 9 twenty-one inch cubits long and 4 twenty-one inch cubits wide.  In other words  189" long = 17' 4"
and 84" wide =  7'.

 Deuteronomy 3:11 (KJV)
 11For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

If we make an allowance of at least one foot at the head and at the feet, Og was about 15 feet tall, the tallest human that we know of to have ever walked the Earth.

The next tallest that we know of in specificity and by fame is Goliath, which 1 Samuel 17:4 lists as a height of 6  twenty-one inch cubits and 1 Zereth (a large span, equal to 1/2 a cubit).  That comes to 126" plus 10.5" for a total of 136" or a height of 11' 6".

Robert Pershing Wadlow in 1940, shortly before his death at the young age of 22, reached a height
equal to that ascribed to Moses. That of  8'9".

In Berachot 54b
, the rabbis hold the tradition that Moses the Law-giver stood at a height of 10 Cubits, but in fact, what was likely meant was a height of 10 zereths @ 105" or 8' 9".  

A Height of 17' 6" as the intent of Berachot 54b seems very unlikely to have been the intent kept by Talmud, when 10 half cubits using 10 as a perfect measure of the Law (i.e., enveloped within the 10 Commandments) was meant.  Clearly, in Scripture, Og was listed as the last of the remnants of the what appears to separate the true giants from the giants (since Moses is the one who is writing this passage of Deuteronomy 3:11),  and Og's height had to therefore be so impressive, that no other could stand anywhere near as tall against him.   Had this not been so, Og would simply have been either have been compared to being but the same or about the same height as Moses, or his height of no mention at all.  Instead, Og himself was so awesome in height, he even made other giants among men -- even those like Moses at 8' 9" and near our day, Robert Pershing Wadlow in 1940 A.D. --  look small.    

However, I have opted for the majority pattern of Scripture and Greek Grammar to place the emphasis of translation as most likely intending Heaven to be great and wondrous, with an almost equal acceptance that at least the possibility of 7 very huge and awesome angels might also have been implied as well.  While I would very much like to lean to the latter, Greek Grammar and John's usage requires me to translate as to the former.

-- Brianroy





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