Revelation 7, KJV with Alternate Greek Word Pictures with Reiterations Translation

Revelation 7

 ¹And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.    (KJV)

 (1)     “And after these things,

   behold, look and see:  I saw

   4 angels standing fast on the 4 Corners of the Earth,

   in order that the wind/air might not blow upon the Earth,

  nor upon the Inland Sea(s)/ Inland Lake(s) and Ocean Shoreline(s),

  nor upon every tree.   (AWPR)

 ²And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,    (KJV)

            (2)  And behold, look and see:  

                   I saw another of the same kind of angel

                   coming up / ascending  from the first dawning horizon's sun rise,

                   having - possessing - accepting  

                   a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring]

                   of the Living GOD;

                   and he cried out with a great noise / voice

                   to the 4 angels (to) who it was 

                   given over - bestowed upon - entrusted to

                   for them to do wrong - to hurt - to damage - to injure

                   the Earth and the Inland Lake(s) / Sea(s) and Ocean Shoreline(s),

                   declaring / saying,       (AWPR)

                         

 ³Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.    (KJV)

           (3)          'Do not do wrong - hurt - damage - injure  the Earth, 

                           nor the Inland Lake(s) / Sea(s) and Ocean Shoreline(s),

                           nor the trees, until (such a time as) which 

                           we may seal with a seal that is impressed [as though with a signet ring]

                           the slaves of our GOD upon the above the eye / foreheads of them.'

                            (AWPR)

 ⁴And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.    (KJV)

           (4)   And I attentively listened and heard the number of those 

                   having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring]:

                   144,000  having been sealed 

                   with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring],

                   out of every tribe of the sons of Israel.   (AWPR)

 ⁵Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.    (KJV)

           (5)    From the tribe of Judah / Y'hudah: 12,000

                    having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                    From the tribe of Reuben / Re'uven: 12,000 

                    having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                    From the tribe of Gad: 12,000

                    having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                     (AWPR)

 ⁶Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.    (KJV)

           (6)  From the tribe of  Asher: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  From the tribe of  Naphtali / Naftali: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  From the tribe of  Manasseh /  M'nasheh: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                   (AWPR)

 ⁷Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.    (KJV)

          (7)   From the tribe of  Simeon / Shim'on: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  From the tribe of  Levi: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  From the tribe of  Issachar / Yissakhar: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  (AWPR)

  ⁸Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.    (KJV)

          (8)   From the tribe of  Zebulon / Z'vulun: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  From the tribe of  Joseph / Yosef: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                  From the tribe of  Benjamin / Binyamin: 12,000

                  having been sealed with a seal that was impressed [as though with a signet ring];

                   (AWPR)

 ⁹After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;    (KJV)

          (9)   In the midst of / amongst these things, behold, look and see:

                  I saw a multitudinous crowd

                  (the) which to reckon or number them

                  certainly no one, not even one, 

                  had the power - had the ability - had the resources - was able;

                  out of every ethnic nation and tribe,

                  and people of a common society and language - tongue -dialect

                  standing fast in the face of - in the presence of - before  the Throne

                  and in the face of - in the presence of - before the Lamb

                  having been cast round about (with) white and shining robes,

                 and palms / palm-branches in the hands of them.      (AWPR)

 ¹⁰And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.    (KJV)

          (10)  And they cry aloud as though hoarsely and urgently

                  in a clamorous outcry with a great noise / voice,

                  saying, 

                       'Salvation - safety - deliverance 

                        to the GOD of us sitting upon the Throne, and to/unto the Lamb.' 

                        (AWPR)

 ¹¹And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,    (KJV)

          (11)  And all the angels stood fast all around / round about  the Throne

                  and the 4 Living Animalistic Creatures,

                  and they fall down prostrate  

                  in the face of - in the presence of - before  the Throne

                  upon (their) eye / face of (them)

                  and worshiped GOD adoringly with praises of the lips,

                  (AWPR)

                                 

  ¹²Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.    (KJV)

          (12)  Saying, 

                             'Amen.  Blessing / favor and glory / thoughtful honor duly rendered

                              and power - ability - resources - might to perform

                              and [physical - mental -moral]  strength

                              to the GOD of us into the Ages of the Ages. Amen.'

                              (AWPR)

 

 ¹³And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?    (KJV)

          (13)  And answering directly, one of the Presbyters / Elders says to me,

                        'These (are) those having been cast round about with 

                         the white and shining robes.                  

                        'Who are they? And from where came forth they to appear?

'                          (AWPR)

 ¹⁴And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.    (KJV)

          (14)  And I said to him, 

                         'Lord / master / sir, you perceive - are acquainted with - know.'

                  And he answered / told me,

                        'These are those coming forth to make (their) appearance

                         out of great crushing - squeezing - breaking

                         Calamity / Angusih / Distress / Affliction / Tribulation,

                         and they washed the cast-round-about [overflowing long] robes of them

                         and made them white and shining in the blood of the Lamb,

                           (AWPR)

 ¹⁵Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.    (KJV)

          (15)  Through Whom / through this One are they 

                   in the face of - in the presence of - before the Throne of GOD,

                   And serve [perform religious duties, service, worship] 

                   Him ' day and night' / continually 

                   in the Temple / Dwelling-place of Him.

                   And the (One) sitting down upon the Throne

                   abode / spread his tent / tabernacled over them.

                      (AWPR) 

 ¹⁶They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.    (KJV)

          (16)  (They will) certainly not hunger / long after food because of hunger 

                   any longer,

                   certainly not will they be dry or thirsty or ardently desire after

                   any longer,

                   certainly not may not fall down upon them the sun,

                   certainly not all / every burning - scorching heat / light,

                     (AWPR)

 ¹⁷For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.   (KJV)

           (17)  Because the Lamb on the midst of the Throne

                    will Shepherd - care for - provide for them,

                    and will lead - guide - teach them

                    upon Living Wells / Fountains of water,

                    and will wipe / blot off every tear from the eyes of them' "

                       (AWPR)

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Revelation 6, KJV with Alternate Greek Word Pictures and Reiterations Translation

Revelation 6

 ¹And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.   (KJV)
      (1)   "And behold, look and see, I saw (at that time) when the Lamb

               open-opened ONE OF THE SEALS that were impressed (as with a signet ring);

               and I attentively heard one from out of the 4 Living Animalistic Creatures

               laying down forth and uttering definite words, speaking

               like as the sound/voice of (clapping) thunder, saying,

                     'Come and see - perceive - observe.'    (AWPR)



 ²And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.   (KJV)
      (2)   And behold, look and see, I saw and lo - behold, 
              a white bright and shining horse;

              and the (one) sitting down upon it

              having - holding - seizing - taking possession of - accepting

              a bow [of war that shoots arrows],
              and was given  -- by (their own) will, intent and accord --
              to him a victory crown;  
                      [not a kingly crown, but that of a designated 'champion']
              and he went forth and proceeded out conquering - subduing victoriously,
              also in order that he might conquer - overcome -subdue.    (AWPR)


  ³And when he had opened the SECOND SEAL, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.     (KJV)
       (3)   And when He open-opened the second seal

               that was impressed (as with a signet ring),

               I attentively heard the Second Living Animalistic Creature

               laying down forth and uttering definite words, speaking,

                     'Come and see - perceive - observe.'     (AWPR)


 ⁴And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.    (KJV)
       (4)   And went forth out another horse of the same kind, red;

              and to the (one) sitting down upon it

              was given of (their) own accord  and free will to him

              to have - hold - take - seize - lay hold of - possess - accept

              the Peace   

                    [including health and welfare, prosperity, harmony, and good will]
             from the Earth,

             also in order that one another they shall slaughter / kill;

             and was given  -- by (their own) will, intent and accord --

              to him a great sword / knife for slaughter.      (AWPR)


 ⁵And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.    (KJV)
      (5)   And when he open-opened the THIRD SEAL

              that was impressed (as with a signet ring),

               I attentively heard the Third Living Animalistic Creature

               laying down forth and uttering definite words, speaking,

                     'Come and see - perceive - observe.'

              And behold, look and see, I saw a black horse,

              and the (one) sitting down upon it

              having - holding - seizing - taking - possessing - accepting

             a (yoke beam of) scales, a balance, in the hand of him.     (AWPR)

 


 ⁶And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.    (KJV)
       (6)    And I attentively heard a voice in (the) midst of

                the 4 Living Animalistic Creatures

                laying down forth and uttering definite words,saying,

                     'A Choenix - Pint - Pound  of Wheat (as) a day's wages,

                      and 3 Choenixes - Pints - Pounds of Barley (as) a day's wages.

                      And the Olive Oil and the Fermented / Alcoholic Wine

                       certainly do NOT damage - injure - hurt.'       (AWPR)

 
 ⁷And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say,
  Come and see. (KJV)
         (7)   And when he open-opened the FOURTH SEAL

               that was impressed (as with a signet ring),

               I attentively heard the Fourth Living Animalistic Creature

               laying down forth and uttering definite words, speaking, 

                     'Come and see - perceive - observe.'     (AWPR)


 ⁸And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.     (KJV)
      (8)    And behold, look and see, I saw a green horse
               [green as green grass or the green leaves of a vine or tree],
               and the (one) sitting down up above and over it,

               (the) Name (subscribed) to him: The Death.

               And Hades / Hell followed along and after

               together with him in the way or path he traveled;

               and was given of (his) own accord and free will to them

               the authority to take - hold - detain

               to (immediately) destroy - slay -kill - put to death

               upon the Fourth of the Earth

               with the Broadsword 

               and with famine

                     [that strikes like or is the result of pestilence(s)]

               and in Death;

               and covertly and without notice, under and through 

               the Therion of the Earth. *        (AWPR)

                             

 ⁹And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:     (KJV)
       (9)   And at that time when He open-opened he Fifth Seal:

              behold, look and see;

              I saw below and underneath the altar of sacrificial offering

              the departed souls of those having been slaughtered-killed-slain

              throughout the Word of GOD,

              and through the martyr's testimonial witness - certification - declaration

              which they had taken hold of - seized - possessed - accepted.     (AWPR)


 ¹⁰And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?    (KJV)
      (10)   And they cried out aloud 

                   (as though hoarsely and urgently in a clamorous outcry), 

               saying / speaking with a great noise / voice:

                    'Unto / Until  when 

                     the Despot / the Master  

                            [specifically: the One sitting down upon the Throne / the Father]
                     the holy / Sacred / Set Apart (One) 
                     and the True Reality / the One who cannot lie,**

                     (wilt Thou) certainly not judge and execute / avenge 

                     the blood of us away from those dwelling in permanent structures

                     upon the Earth?'       (AWPR)



 ¹¹And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.    (KJV)
     (11)   And was bestowed upon - given up - delivered over - committed

               to each and every one a white bright and shining (long) robe

                     [one that often is so long that it includes a train that drags the ground];
               and flowingly stated was a statement said to them,

               in order that they should be quiet and rest still yet a small / little time (longer)

               until what should be completed - accomplished - made full - fulfilled;

               also the slaves together / fellow-slaves of them, and the brothers of them:

               those who were at the point of / those who were about to be

               killed - slain -put to death as also they (were).       (AWPR)


  ¹²And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;    (KJV)
       (12)   And behold, look and see, I saw beheld - perceived - knew

                 when He open-opened the Sixth Seal;

                 and behold, look and see, 

                 a great shaking came into existence,

                 and the sun became black as (a) sackcloth made of [black goat's] hair;
                 and the moon became as blood,      (AWPR)

                  
 ¹³And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.     (KJV)
     (13)    and the stars / luminaries of the heaven fell down / fell down apart to ruins

                 into the Earth,

                 in what manner or way (that) a fig tree casts off / throws off 

                 the unripe [winter] figs of it,

                          [that which grows under the leaves of the fig tree in winter],
                 being shocked - shaken -stirred  under / beneath a great wind.     (AWPR)

  ¹⁴And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.     (KJV)
     (14)   And the Heaven was separated / torn apart / departed

               as a Scroll being rolled up,

               and every mountain and island

               were put in motion and removed out of their places.     (AWPR)

  ¹⁵And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
  (KJV)
     (15)   And the kings of the Earth,

               and the great persons of the highest ranks,

               and the rich in material wealth,

               and the chiliarchs / commanders of a thousand,

               and the strong / able / mighty/ powerful

               and every slave and every free / independent / free man

               hid themselves into the caves / caverns / dens,

               and into the cliffs and projecting rocks of the mountains.      (AWPR)

 ¹⁶And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:    (KJV)
      (16)   And they speak/say to the mountains

               and to the cliffs and the projecting rocks,

                    'Fall down upon us, and hide us   [ make us secret]
                     from the face - countenance - presence 

                     of the (One) sitting down upon the Throne

                     and from the Wrath / Furious Anger of the Lamb;     (AWPR)


 ¹⁷For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?    (KJV)
      (17)   Because the Great Day of the Wrath / Furious Anger of Him has come,
                and who is able to stand (it) / endure (it)?' "      (AWPR)


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* Therion - 

 The Therion - an Overview
      For the believer, we need to both unlearn some interpretations and relearn what the Scriptures themselves actually say (in Hebrew and Greek).   The Bible tells us that we either will worship the invisible GOD, He who made the Heavens and the Earth, or we will find ourselves worshiping a limited yet tyrannical and fiercely rotten creature. In effect, the unsaved will find themselves worshiping the invisible Therion...the serpentine beast of Revelation 17 (though called a poisonous viper in Acts 28:4,5...reminiscent of Satan in the Garden of Eden slithering words to Eve).  It is a literal 7 headed spiritual creature currently in the Abyssos / Bottomless Pit (hence the Center ) of the Earth that may or may not be as large and as fierce-some as some monstrous dinosaur creature.  

In Revelation 11:7, we find that the First time that Therion rises, is when he is loosed from the bottomless pit for the purpose of fulfilling the slaying of the Two Great Witnesses on Day 1286 1/2 ff. of the Tribulation Period.

The second time we see the 7 headed Beast is at the assault upon Heaven in Revelation 12:1. Satan's "unsecret" weapon, no matter how fearsome and persuasive an entity it might be, is no match for the assault ambush attempt to prevent the Elijahn Rapture 3 1/2 days later, after having been loosed.

It seems to me that the effects of the 4th SEAL in Revelation 6:8 do not happen upon the Earth until AFTER the breaking of the 6th Seal in Revelation 6:12.  It is as if the 6th Seal is an immediate effect, and the result of the opening of the 4th Seal is still traveling to Earth to begin following the Elijahn Rapture on Day 1290.  In other words it is as if it takes days or weeks for the 4th Seal authorization and events to be set in motion, to cross both time and space slowly,  as if on a long journey over a vast expanse, while (like the Rapture) the 6th Seal instantaneously crosses both time and space, as if through a portal or worm-hole that bridges the distance of time and space, placing it ahead of the earlier issued Judgment (that regarding the 4th Seal) that left the same location (Heaven), being dispatched to the Earth prior to it (i.e., the Sixth Seal Judgment). IF this is the case, and it may well be, this would clear up how that events happening in Heaven seem to be out of sequence in how they happen upon the Earth.  Thus there is NO discrepancy between the events of the breaking of the 7 Seals, the sounding of the 7 Trumpets, and the pouring out of the 7 bowl/pans in Revelation.  

The Day of the Elijahn Rapture being known once the Tribulation Period starts and is preceded by the Enochian (sudden and unseen) Rapture, the Therion is finally allowed to awaken or be unloosed from the Bottomless Pit / Hades / Abyssos and slay the Two great Witnesses at the appointed time that they have completed their assignments. The authority of the Two great Witnesses given them by G-D to prevail against any man (hence inclusive of angels and cherubim) in Revelation 11:5, prevents Satan himself from killing the Two great Witnesses, and shows his ineffectualness even next to GOD's own being empowered human beings.


The third time we see this 7 headed Therion, is when he rises from the Sea in Revelation 13:1. Notice that in Rev. 13:4, the Dragon (Satan) is a separate entity from the Therion having 7 heads and 10 horns who rises from the Sea. This, indeed is the Therion of Revelation 17:3, that had risen from the bottomless pit and attempted to devour Heaven's Rapture Saint Snatchers, was cast out and down (not having strength or capability), that is slain 3 1/2 years later in Isaiah 27:1 at the 2nd Coming of Christ.

The Therion must empower an entity -- such as the coming One World Government -- in the natural...somehow. We see that in Revelation 13:18, that a man who visibly heads that organization, then, takes on the same number as the Therion, and that of Satan himself. 

Satan, who demonstrates his claim to the kingdoms of the world in Matthew 4:8, before casting a lie, hands over ALL that he has to the Therion to persecute and kill every last remnant of Judeo-Christianity from the face of the Earth. That is, a human element carries out the will of the Therion unblinkingly.

What is missing? The power of deception is not able to be carried out now to the same scale capacity as when the 7 headed Therion is unleashed from the Bottomless Pit. The 5th Angel sounds his trump, and a star falls from Heaven, having been given possession of the key to the bottomless pit, from which the unnatural demon locusts ascend, and torment for 5 months…yet no Therion is made known to rise as yet.

The rise of the 7 headed Therion from the abyss leads to what is termed as a “war” (Gr., polemon) with the Two great Witnesses. It may be that the means of hail, lightnings, fire, tornado, are all used to no avail by the command of the Two great Witnesses; but we cannot know for sure. We do know that the event will happen before the 7th Trump sounds and the Second Woe comes. Traditionally, we have been perceiving the 6th Trump at the end, near to the Second Coming, and attributing the 200,000,000 to the Kings of the East (presumably headed by China). But this doesn’t appear to be the case regarding the 6th trump.

When the 4 angels of Revelation 9:15, which are bound in the Euphrates River until the 6th Judgment trump, are loosed for the time to head a 200,000,000 man (mechanized / horseless, by description) cavalry driven army and destroy the third part of mankind, this appears to more or less correspond with the Ezekiel 38’s Invasion of Israel by Islamic forces, while the 7 headed Therion and the other forces of Satan attempt to STOP the Elijahn Rapture by laying ambush.

It is at the Elijahn Rapture, in the same hour, that the second woe comes and departs, a 100 % worldwide Earthquake in which the Earth shakes off its own axis, and reels to and fro like a hut, while every island on Earth slips and disappears from existence.

It is the cast down Satan (and his Therion which was cast into the sea), that is the Third Woe. Following this are 1335 more days until the Second Coming of Jesus at the end of the 7 years.

Babylon, who in her madness aids and assists in the hunting down and killing of Christians in the Tribulation Period based on Greed, is devoured…perhaps because possessions and money don‘t really mean all that much any more, just provision from the State entity to survive…or something to this effect.

At any rate, we need to re-look at and re-evaluate Revelation in terms of Biblical Prophecy from a more literal perspective than allegorical, even if like unto a newspaper journalist using metaphors to describe actual events in a journalistic lingo.

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** Distinguishes G-D the Father as being distinctly far above the Islamic pseudo-deity of Allah, who like flawed man, lies, and plots and plans deception as the greatest liar, faker, and bluffer of all -- as if that evil were a virtue.  G-D cannot and will not lie.  Hence, the deity of Islam is a perversity, and abomination to the True Reality of what is, made manifest and known exclusively through Judaism and thereafter faithfully through the King Messiah Yeshua HaMesshiach / Jesus Christ, who gave us true Judaism restored in what was thereafter labeled as Christianity. 

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